Summary
Many schools are increasing opportunities for students to talk through presentations, debates and podcasts. This is a positive shift. However, opportunities for talk are not, in themselves, a system for improving talk. Improvement comes from a clearly articulated body of knowledge that can be taught, practised and assessed. Tongue Fu Talking® provides this structure by defining what effective talk consists of and how it develops over time, enabling students to become more precise, reasoned and purposeful in how they speak and listen.
A positive shift
It is encouraging to see talk gaining greater attention in schools.
Students are discussing ideas, presenting their thinking and engaging in a wider range of speaking and listening activities than in the past. Classrooms are, in many cases, richer in talk.
This matters because talk is central to how students learn to organise ideas and make meaning.
Alongside this positive shift, it can be helpful to clarify a key distinction.
Providing opportunities for talk is not the same as improving talk.
Occasions for talk
Many of the approaches schools adopt are best understood as occasions for talk:
- A class debate
- A presentation
- A podcast
- A structured discussion
These provide purpose and audience. They can motivate students and make learning more engaging.
They are important.
However, they are contexts in which talk happens, rather than a method for developing how talk improves over time.
What does improvement in talk look like?
A useful question to ask is:
What are students getting better at when they talk?
For example, are students:
- Making clearer connections between ideas:
“This links to what we learned about rivers because both show how water shapes the land over time.” - Seeking clues and making inferences:
“The character keeps pausing and avoiding questions, so I think they might be uncertain or hiding something.” - Reasoning with structure:
“I think sound is not a force because it doesn’t push or pull objects, so it is a form of energy, but it can still cause vibrations.” - Building on others’ contributions:
“I agree with your point about evaporation, and I’d add that temperature also affects how quickly it happens.” - Challenging ideas respectfully with evidence:
“I see your point, but the data shows a decrease after that event, which suggests a different cause.” - Summarising thinking precisely:
“So our conclusion is that the material is waterproof because it repels water rather than absorbing it.”
If students are improving in these ways, then talk is developing.
If the answer is more general, such as “they are more confident” or “they are talking more”, it may be worth considering whether talk is being developed, or simply encouraged.
Why opportunities alone are not enough
Speaking and listening draw on several elements:
- Knowledge of the subject
- Organisation of ideas
- Control of language
- Interaction with others
These do not typically improve through participation alone.
Some people assume that increasing opportunities to speak will naturally lead to better talk. In practice, improvement tends to come when these elements are:
- Made explicit
- Taught directly
- Practised deliberately
- Revisited over time
Without this, students may become more fluent, but not more precise, and more confident, but not more accurate in their reasoning.
A missing piece: a body of knowledge for talk
In many areas of the curriculum, there is a clear sense of what is to be learned:
- In mathematics: number, calculation, algebra
- In writing: sentence structure, grammar, composition
For talk, this is less consistently defined.
Recent work, including contributions to the Oracy Education Commission, has highlighted that while talk is widely valued, there is not always a clearly articulated body of knowledge that sets out:
- What effective talk consists of
- What students should be getting better at
- How this develops over time
As a result, practice can sometimes focus on:
- Providing opportunities to speak
- Encouraging participation
- Developing confidence
All of which are important, but do not in themselves ensure progression.
It can also lead to greater emphasis on performative talk, such as presenting, and less on exploratory talk, where ideas are developed and refined.
Where approaches such as Talk for Writing sit
Some approaches make very effective use of talk in supporting other areas of learning.
For example, in Talk for Writing, students rehearse language, internalise patterns and test ideas before writing. This can play an important role in helping students develop their writing.
It is helpful, though, to be clear about the purpose.
In these cases, talk is being used to prepare for writing.
That is different from a structured approach designed to develop spoken language itself, with its own progression, practices and purposes.
Tongue Fu Talking®: a structured system for oracy
Tongue Fu Talking® is designed to address this gap by providing a clearly defined and teachable body of knowledge for talk.
It begins with a clear definition:
Oracy is the disciplined art of speaking and listening, where thinking, language, expression, and collaboration come together to shape understanding and communication.
From this, it builds a structured system through:
The four disciplines
- The Stance: how ideas are physically delivered
- The Flow: how language is constructed
- The Mind: how thinking is organised and developed
- The Bond: how interaction is managed
This gives clarity about what effective talk involves.
Teachable practices
Within each discipline, specific practices are identified and taught.
For example, students learn to:
- Make connections and seek clues
- Reason using structures such as because, so, but
- Summarise thinking clearly
- Build on and challenge ideas respectfully
These are explicitly modelled and practised so that improvement is visible and cumulative.
Modes of talk
Tongue Fu Talking® distinguishes between:
- Explorer Mode: where students develop and test ideas
- Presenter Mode: where students communicate secure understanding
This ensures that students are not asked to present ideas before they have had the opportunity to explore and refine them.
Clear progression
Through the belt system, development is structured over time:
- From early attempts at expressing ideas (White Belt)
- To increasingly precise, reasoned and audience-aware communication (Black Belt)
This makes oracy both teachable and assessable.
Bringing it together
Opportunities for talk are valuable. They provide purpose, audience and motivation.
Alongside this, students benefit from a clear structure that helps them improve:
- What they say
- How they say it
- How they think through talk
- How they respond to others
This is the distinction:
Occasions for talk create the space for speaking.
A structured system ensures that students are getting better at speaking and listening each time they do it.
Tongue Fu Talking® is designed to provide that structure.
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